Sectumsempra: Where To Cut ‘Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows’?

Harry PotterMuggles rejoice! Magic is surely in the air with news today that “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows” will be split into two feature length films, the first of which will hit theaters in November 2010.

But like an uninvited trip through somebody else’s memory (we’re looking at you, Harry), the news, while satisfying, offers up nearly as many questions as answers. If only Dumbledore was still around to help us sort it all out, right David Heyman?

“The question will be, where do you break it? And how do you make them one but two separate and distinct stories?” the “Potter” producer asked in a recent “LA Times” story. “Do you break it with a moment of suspense or one of resolution? These are the interesting challenges.”

Forgive me if it seems like I’ve taken an extra dose of draught of insanity, but what’s all the confusion about? In my mind, there can be only one ideal place to divide the two films:

SPOILERS BELOW

The best, most logical place, to divide the two films comes with the death and funeral of Dobby the house elf, corresponding to the chapter entitled “Shell Cottage.”

Aside from the simple fact that it comes at (relatively) the book’s halfway point, the moment is also one of the most significant in the entire novel (if not the series). As J.K. Rowling told MTV News last October, Dobby’s death “woke Harry up to what he was doing.”

Indeed (and now I quote myself) Dobby’s death comes at a crucial time in Book 7, when Harry must decide whether to continue chasing Voldemort’s horcruxes, or to abandon that quest and search for the legendary “Deathly Hallows” instead. The death of Dobby “focused [Harry],” in his resolve to choose the former, Rowling insisted.

It could be called a mini-climax, where Harry finally accepts the wisdom of Dumbledore and resolves to see his quest to the end. Fine. Bu what makes it particularly intriguing as a division even beyond that is that it’s a remarkably melancholy moment sandwiched between two high-octane action sequences – the fight at Malfoy Manor before it, and the assault on Gringotts immediately after.

Everything before is search, everything after is destroy: Harry goes directly from Shell Cottage to Gringotts, from Gringotts to Hogsmeade, from Hogsmeade to the BATTLE OF HOGWARTS!!!

I can even picture the last shot of the first film – Harry, crying over Dobby’s grave, sweat pouring down his face,ready to give-up instead stands tall, his fists clenched, resolved to discover what comes next.

Just like the rest of us.

Am I crazy or does this make way too much sense? Do you have a better idea for where to divide the series? And while we’re talking “Deathly Hallows,” make sure to help us cast it here.

Sound off below.

85 Responses to “Sectumsempra: Where To Cut ‘Harry Potter And The Deathly Hallows’?”

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  1. i agree with those who think it should be ended at the death of dobby. if it is ended earlier, e.g. rons departure, the first film will be quite hard to fill due to the lack of action whereas the second will have lots of important plot points crammed in (godrics hollow, gringots, the final battle and thats not even thinking about the explanations such as dumbledores story, the deathly hallows and kings cross). i also think it is easier to cut scenes from earlier in the book (thinking mainly with all three in the tent moving from place to place - not all of it but some could be cut), because lets face it we might not like the fact but some parts will need to be cut. if the film ended at rons departure i have a bad feeling the on screen version wont do the final battle justice or cut out key plots and subplots that explain the previous stories. whatever way they choose to go though i really cant wait!!!!
  2. The way I think it should end should be the trio, after Dobby's funeral, knocking on Griphook's door and saying "There's something we need to talk to you about," leading into Gringotts for the 2nd movie. Then cut to Voldemort stealing Dumbledore's wand, and end of movie. And as for you all of saying there's only action from there and not being enough plot twists, are you CRAZY! There's so much! You have Gringotts and the dragon, Hogsmeade, Dumbledore's brother, getting into Hogwarts. Then the preparation for the Final Battle, finding Ravenclaws diadem, the first part of the battle, the Room of Requirement, Snape's death and his memories, then the calm leading up to the second part of the battle, Harry facing Voldemort, Harry and Dumbledore at King's Cross. Then of course the final part of the battle. There's plenty of plot twists! Everything about Snape, all the magical connections surrounding Harry and Voldemort which explains the whole entire story from all 7 books leading up to it. There is SO MUCH and it would be stupid not to cut it right after Dobby's death. If they cut it off before that point, I'm sorry to say, but the 1st part would just SUCK!
  3. The story must end with peril in order to foster a hook to the final film for all of those who are not obsessed with the actual books. As such, the perfect point to cut the movie is with the snatchers as someone else already pointed out. It could be done in a few different ways,
    1. when Harry says Voldermort's name
    2. when they are escorted into Malfoy's Mannor
    or
    3. when they start the torturing of Hermione and Harry actually starts to panic.

    Any of these solutions will leave the viewer on the edge of his or her seat wanting to know what happens next. Dreading the answer if they don't already know.

    The suggestion of breaking at Dobby's death is understandable, but I agree, it is too far into the book and does not offer a dramatic enough hook to the final movie.
  4. Personally, I'd love to see the 1st one end when Harry says the tabooed "Voldemort" and they are then dragged off to Malfoy Manor. Possibly even with a few mins spent there, so we can hear Hermione being crucioed and Ron screaming for her. It seemed like there was no way for them to escape.. it would keep the movie goers anxious to see what's going to happen!
  5. Either When dobby dies, or right before Ron gets bak and after they escape narrowly from he-who-must-not-be-named.
  6. To those commenting on OotP acting: I don't know if it counts as "acting" but Evanna Lych was brilliant as Luna. She stole that movie just being herself.
  7. To those commenting on the acting on OotP:
    I don't know if it counts as "acting", but Evanna Lynch stole that movie just by being herself.
  8. To those commenting on the acting on OotP:
    I don't know if it counts as "acting", but Evanna Lynch totally "stole" that movie, just by being herself.
  9. To those commenting on the acting on OotP:
    I don't know if it counts as "acting", but Evanna Lynch "stole" that movie, just by being herself.
  10. I think that would be the perfect place to end the first film...I knew it from the start!
  11. Dobby's death is too far into the story to make the split. We would have to squeeze the escape from Privet Drive, the wedding, the Ministry, the visit to Godric's Hollow, Xenophilius Lovegood, and Malfoy Manor, as well as various other scenes, into 2.5 hours. There's not enough time at all. It would make more sense to end it at either Xenophilius Lovegood or, at they very least, before Malfoy Manor. If you find the halfway point in the actual book, you'd see that's around Ron's return in The Silver Doe, so its very possible that will be where the split takes place.
  12. Personally, after giving it a lot of thought, I think that the best place to cut the movies would be after Ron returns and destroys the locket. I think it gives well rounded ending--leaving the audience with some manner of normalcy and closure while still dangling the reality that this is only the beginning of the end out before fans.
  13. I have read through the Deathly Hallows 4 times now and about to start it a 5th time. In my opinion, because JK tied up so many lose ends and yet had new exciting ideas and situations in DH that it was the best of the series and more worthy of 2 movies than I think anyone truely realizes.

    JK, you are brilliant as a writer and astounding with imagination. Harry Potter has got to be my absolute favorite of all the Sci-fi/Fantasy genre. I'm 34 and I've seen and read alot of Sci-fi/Fantasy and Harry Potter just blows my mind. It's Fantasy in the 20th century and it's a revolution of the genre, after all most fantasy is set in a time long ago or in a realm other than Earth. I love Harry Potter more than most others of the genre.

    I believe the first part of the 7th film should end after they escape Negini in Godric's Hallow. That is roughly, literally, close to the center of the book, but it is a great INTERMISSION point. Harry and Hermione just escaped with a hint that Voldermort is desperate to kill Harry. The only problem of that is that Harry had not yet destroyed any of the Horcruxes, other than the diary and the ring that Dumbledore destroyed, but that's ok. Leave the destruction of the other 5 Horcruxes, Ron's Return and Doby's Heroism for Part 2.
  14. I think that Deathly Hallows Part I should end right as Harry and Hermione Disapparate while jumping out of Bathilda Bagshot's window away from Voldemort. That way it leaves you with suspense and Part II starts with Harry reliving the night that his parents died from Voldemort's piont of iew and then waking up to find that his wand has been broken.
  15. Dobby's funeral might be too close to the end of the book to be a halfway point. Afterwards, all you have is the break-into Gringotts and the Battle of Hogwarts.
  16. christmas! right after they leave Godric's Hollow. like, when they apparate away, just have them collapse in the woods, and thats it. that is really the best place to leave it. its midway both chronologically and actionall-y.
  17. OMG I'm soooooo confused! i think that splitting the book where Dobby dies is wonderful, and makes a world of sense, but when i first heard it was going to be made into 2 movies, I started wondering, "where will they split it?!?!?!" so i started to think for a while, and i came up with two conclusions: 1. (the bad *don't do* one) at the end of the chapter of when Ron comes back. It would make the movies even, BUT it would make the final battle shorter. 2. (the good one) right as they are done planning going to Gringgotts, and tell Bill and Fleur they are going and not to wait for them, as they are NEVER coming back. picture it, doesn't it make a good ending in your head? Harry, talking to B&F, "Don't wait up for us, and don't expect us back. I'm sorry." as he sheds a small tear, for either Dobby, or the fact they are hurting B&F, emotionally. #2 is close enough to Dobby's death, isn't it? he just questions Olivander and Griphook, and plans. Plus, it would give them ALOT of time for the final battle. I CAN'T WAIT FOR MOVIE 6!!!!! I want to see how long they make the battle! ooh! i just had a good idea... they should make Dumbledore's death (cry) & falling off the tower in SLOW-MO! aaaaawesome. But i'll love it WHEREEVER they split it. But they have to get EVERYTHIONG IN. YOU HERE ME WARNER BRO.S? PUT EVERYTHING IN I SAY, PUT EVERYTHING IN! (and make R/Hr have more than ONE kiss!!!!!!!!)
  18. NO!!!
    I think that they should cut it in Godrics hallow! it would be soooooo much better. With abeyance, will Ron come back? will Harry survive to Voldemort attack in the house of Bathilda Bagshot?? Don't you think so?
  19. as we speak im reading the book for lik the millionth time jus looking for where the split will be, so far i tihnk its a good place but ill get back to you if i find a better one!
  20. I think maybe after their visit to Mr.Lovegood.
  21. Yeah I was just thinking of more suitable place where it should be cut, but I agree from the dobby scene is the best place
  22. i feel like it should be cut at the end of the silver doe. i think that dobbys death is too far and i think that this is a big moment for the trio. their friendship is tested and ron comes back. and this is right before malfoy manor which is way to much to include in movie one i think. (plus i never want to have to see hermione torchered so lets hold that off as long as possible lol)
  23. The first thing that came to my mind was splitting the movie after the doe scene.
  24. Well, Person-Who-Wrote-That-Article, I think that would be a great ending! It could go out kinda like Peter Jackson's Two Towers ending, having it suddenly grow darker (story-wise), and then fade to credits.
  25. I couldn't agree more! this is a heartbreaking scene that will leave the audience eager for more. Although I am quite annoyed that the audience will have to wait a few months after the first part to see part 2.
  26. Okay, I think this is perfect.
    Before, I thought Rons Return would be perfect because it's right in the middle, you could end it with Harry & Ron walking together towards the tent with the broken horcrux which can be a great ending of a story but also leave it little open of *@ Hermione will react when she sees Ron again.

    But unfortunatly the ending of part 1 can't be in the middle because the Battle of Hogwarts has to have at least half an hour of the movie. And alot of things has'nt happened yet when Ron is back so there is no way the second part can start in the middle... in that case, the second part will have to be like 5 hours long . (not that I have a problem with that ) :D

    So basicially.. Dobbys Funeral will be perfect
  27. I don't even understand why it is necessary to split the movie into two. It's all a big hoax...with the final part coming up they just want to drag out as much money as possible.
    What's wrong with a three plus hour movie?
    In theaters they can put in a ten minute break or so, it's not that uncommon.
    And I think it may not have been the smartes to let Harry live at the end of book 7. I was actually hoping for him to die!!!
    But then again I'm not such a wizard fan...
    Vampires kick wizard ass any day ----> Twilight!!!
  28. The best place to split it is when Voldemort takes The Elder Wand. Its a great cliffhanger- Harry knows what he needs to do and Voldemort seems invincible.
  29. the best place for a cliffhanger would be when they get caught when harry says voldemort's name and it ends just as they get to malfoy monor..
  30. Great idea.Harry Potter and Deathly Hallows ending with the determined Harry(after Kreacher's death - i don't think the movie makers will be bringing two CG house elves into the same movie)and the satisfied Voldemort posessing the elder wand.
    Harry Potter and the Battle at Hogwarts(which was the title originally intended for the 7th book)would then be a full fledged action thriller.People would love it!!! I know i will.
  31. Also... the Battle of Hogwarts can have some preview scenes on Dumbledore's past (James McAvoy is a great idea for the young Albus) just like the starting of LOTR-3 and Godfather2. That would make a hell of a movie.
  32. Although Dobby's death is a good place to split the movie, there's another spot people should consider. After Ron leaves Harry and Hermione in the woods. It would be a dramatic spot to end the first movie, leaving people really waiting for the second. The second half of the book plays our a lot quicker than the first so that would compensate for the split happening earlier in the book.
  33. i really dont like the idea of splitting the movie at all, since there's so much death in the last book i bet the age limit will be at 15. and any 15 year old, and older could easily sit still for like 5 hours. Dont split the movie!

    *But i agree that the best place to split it would be after dobbys funeral. definitely!
  34. This would be a great place to cut the movies into two...where i originaly thought the ideal place to end part 1 was the end of the chapter Xenophilius Lovegood; because it's about exactly the halfway point, and the final sentence in that chapter is "Are you refering to the sign of the Deathly Hallows?" that is before any of the nail biting exitement the fighting sequences provide. Then part two would begin with the chapter the tale of three brothers...well that's my idea anyway :)
  35. yea, thats great!!! I can't wait for it... it'll be so kool!!! I think d. yates is great, one of my fav directors. hes great. I don't know why all of you ppl, most of u anyway, hav to judge ppl. We all hav our downfalls and all have a bad day.. You can't just say stuff when your not even sure its true. Yates is a great guy and a lot of fun, you'd hav to meet him first before you judge him. ok, well, can't wait for it, it'll be great!!!!

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